{"id":1389,"date":"2014-08-08T16:41:28","date_gmt":"2014-08-08T14:41:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/?p=1389"},"modified":"2014-08-08T16:53:02","modified_gmt":"2014-08-08T14:53:02","slug":"a-comparison-of-whatsapp-facebook-messenger-and-telegram-permissions-on-android","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/?p=1389","title":{"rendered":"A comparison of WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and Telegram permissions on Android"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently I&#8217;ve seen quite a few postings of the article <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/sam-fiorella\/the-insidiousness-of-face_b_4365645.html?utm_hp_ref=tw\">The Insidiousness of Facebook Messenger&#8217;s Mobile App Terms of Service <\/a>, claiming you should remove your Facebook Messenger because of the control the app has over your Android device. Many have suggested Telegram instead, which I&#8217;ve been using a while. &#8220;Using&#8221;, I should add, in the same sense I would use a carrier pigeon. It&#8217;s nice to have, but there aren&#8217;t many others to share the fun with.<\/p>\n<p>So how bad is the Facebook app compared to others? Here&#8217;s a comparison between the permissions demanded by Facebook Messenger, Telegram and Whatsapp on Android:<\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<th>Permission<\/th>\n<th>Facebook Messenger<\/th>\n<th>Telegram<\/th>\n<th>WhatsApp<\/th>\n<tr>\n<td>Retrieve running apps<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Find accounts on the device<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Find accounts on the device<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read your own contact card<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read your own contact card<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read contacts<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Modify your contacts<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Approximate location (network-based)<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Precise location (GPS and network-based)<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Edit your text messages<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Receive text messages (SMS)<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read your text messages<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Send SMS messages<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Receive text messages (MMS)<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Directly call phone numbers<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read call log<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Test access to protected storage<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Modify or delete contents of your USB storage<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Take pictures and videos<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Record audio<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>View wifi connections<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read phone status and identity<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read sync statistics<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Receive data from internet<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Download files without notification<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Run at startup<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Prevent device from sleeping<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>View network connections<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Install shortcuts<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Change your audio settings<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read Google service configuration<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Draw over other apps<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Full network access<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read sync settings<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Read sync statistics<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Control vibration<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Change network connectivity<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Toggle sync on and off<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Use accounts on the device<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Modify system settings<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Uninstall shortcuts<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #66cc00;\">No<\/td>\n<td style=\"background-color: #FDB3AB;\">Yes<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>The permissions that have got most people worried, with visions of their phone starting to video them and record their conversations, &#8220;Take pictures and videos&#8221; and &#8220;Record audio&#8221;, are shared by all the apps. In Android&#8217;s permission system, they&#8217;re required to function. So if you want to use the chat functionality, you have to give the app these permissions. If the software is proprietary (Facebook and Whatsapp), you&#8217;ll need trust the company behind the app (Facebook owns Whatsapp as well). Telegram is open source, and therefore anyone can (and does) check the code. If you&#8217;re worried about security, you should be as concerned about what happens to your messages and data in transit, and here the best option I know of right now is <a href=\"https:\/\/telegram.org\/\">Telegram<\/a>, which is designed with a focus on privacy. <\/p>\n<p>Now if only more people would use it&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently I&#8217;ve seen quite a few postings of the article The Insidiousness of Facebook Messenger&#8217;s Mobile App Terms of Service , claiming you should remove your Facebook Messenger because of the control the app has over your Android device. Many have suggested Telegram instead, which I&#8217;ve been using a while. &#8220;Using&#8221;, I should add, in&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/?p=1389\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">A comparison of WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger and Telegram permissions on Android<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1389","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-metal-technical","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1389","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1389"}],"version-history":[{"count":57,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1389\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1445,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1389\/revisions\/1445"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1389"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1389"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1389"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}