{"id":376,"date":"2004-10-25T09:43:05","date_gmt":"2004-10-25T07:43:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/wordpress\/?p=376"},"modified":"2004-10-25T09:43:05","modified_gmt":"2004-10-25T07:43:05","slug":"banking-and-open-source-in-south-africa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/?p=376","title":{"rendered":"Banking and Open Source in South Africa"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Now that I&#8217;m finally moved off the Windows2000 machine I&#8217;d been using at work (all of the developers have been using Linux a while, either Gentoo, Mandrake or Fedora, as have most of the editorial staff, so it was disgraceful that the IT Manager who got everyone to run on Open Source hasn&#8217;t been doing so himself!), and am running Mandrake on my laptop, it&#8217;s time to look at that &#8216;hall of shame&#8217; I&#8217;ve been meaning to put together a while. How do South African banks shape up when it comes to Open Source.<\/p>\n<p>Sadly, pretty badly.<\/p>\n<p>The obvious 2 are the &#8216;online&#8217; banks, 20Twenty and Icanonline.  They offer better interest rates, lower charges &#8211; surely they would support open standards? I currently use Icanonline, and have been very happy, but plan to retire all Windows machines from my life. I&#8217;ll keep this discussion simple: do the sites work on Linux (or anything besides IE), and what interest rates do they pay with a R10 000 positive balance, and with a R100 000 positive balance (perhaps I&#8217;m being a tad optimistic here). Bank charges are another story altogether. I&#8217;d suggest looking at the <a href=\"http:\/\/http:\/\/www.bankmonitor.co.za\/\">Bankmonitor<\/a> site for more on this.<\/p>\n<p>Icanonline:<br \/>\nGreat interest rate of 6.05% for anything above R10 000, but the menus don&#8217;t work, making the site unusable. Interest of R50.41\/R504.16 per month if you have a R10 000\/R100 000 balance.<\/p>\n<p>20Twenty:<br \/>\nNot quite so good interest rate: 3% at R10 000, 6% at >R20 000. I&#8217;ve been assured by a Wired Warrior that the site works on Mozilla, but I can&#8217;t even complete the application form successfully (don&#8217;t oops me, I assure you that radio button was checked!). Interest works out to R25\/R500 per month at R10 000\/R100 000.<\/p>\n<p>FNB:<br \/>\nWorks on Linux and a fairly wide variety of platforms. I was going to write &#8216;impressive tech&#8217;, but I&#8217;m feeling churlish today &#8211; just since most of the banks don&#8217;t do it, doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s impressive. This should be standard! So FNB meet the minimum standards. However, dismal interest rate of 1.25% at R10 000, moving up to 4% at R100 000. That&#8217;s R10.41\/R333.33 interest per month at R10 000\/R100 000.<\/p>\n<p>Standard Bank:<br \/>\nDismal interest of 1.5% and 3.8%. Site doesn&#8217;t fill one with hope, talking only about IE 5 or higher, but menus seem to work with Mozilla, and I&#8217;ve heard the site does work. If anyone knows more, please let me know. R12.50 and R316.66 interest respectively.<\/p>\n<p>Nedbank:<\/p>\n<p>It gets worse! Interest of 1% and 3.5%, and the site seems up the pole. I can&#8217;t find a page mentioning browser requirements, the site map has one page on it, and the interactive demo is a tiny window that I can&#8217;t click on. So I can only assume this site isn&#8217;t working on Linux. If the interest rates don&#8217;t chase you away, the tech will! You&#8217;d earn a whopping R8.33\/R291.66. Don&#8217;t fool yourself that with bank charges you&#8217;ll come close to a profit!<\/p>\n<p>Absa:<br \/>\n1.2% and 3.8%. After Icanonline and 20Twenty I would have called this dismal, but it doesn&#8217;t seem so bad after the other misnamed &#8216;Big Four&#8217;. Can&#8217;t find specific information about the browsers, but the demo seems to work, although some of the rendering is a little off. Does anyone know more? R10\/R316.66 interest earned.<\/p>\n<p>So, what am I to do? Icanonline and 20Twenty both offer tempting packages, but the tech doesn&#8217;t work. Do I have to effectively pay hundreds of rands more (with bank charges) to be able to bank on Linux? These banks happily chase away the 1 in 25 people who can&#8217;t use their sites (based upon the September <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iol.co.za\">IOL<\/a> figures, probably a good overview of general South African readership). Perhaps I should apply for a 20Twenty account on IE, and then test whether the actual banking works on Mozilla. How many customers would go to this much trouble \ud83d\ude42 I&#8217;ll keep you posted.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Now that I&#8217;m finally moved off the Windows2000 machine I&#8217;d been using at work (all of the developers have been using Linux a while, either Gentoo, Mandrake or Fedora, as have most of the editorial staff, so it was disgraceful that the IT Manager who got everyone to run on Open Source hasn&#8217;t been doing&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/?p=376\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Banking and Open Source in South Africa<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-376","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-fire-social","entry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/376","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=376"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/376\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=376"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=376"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.greenman.co.za\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=376"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}